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Post by Admezor on May 18, 2009 4:13:58 GMT
For Winamp:
Install the asio plugin for Winamp (Google it - this is a specific Asio plugin for Winamp)
Install Asio4all.
In Winamp: Options - Preferences - Plugins - Output. Select ASIO Output, then select configure. From the Device drop down, select asio4all. You can also choose whatever settings are appropriate for you in the configure box.
Now that we've enabled ASIO within Winamp, and told it to use it, we can now configure asio4all. Close Winamp and restart (may not be needed on your system), you should see the asio4all icon in your system tray. Open it to access asio4all's config panel.
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Post by Admezor on May 18, 2009 4:49:29 GMT
Rob, For me it's as simple as using the on-board audio (IDT) with specific app's like Guitar Rig without going to an external interface. The latency is acceptable for my limited needs at around 7ms. Obviously, this hasn't anything to do with Winamp other than the need for asio4all already existed on this system, so the rest was worth trying. A non-technical answer (as I'm not tech elite) to your question about playing audio files I believe is related to how the gets there. In XP, ASIO has the advantage of bypassing XP's kmixer, directly streaming the output to the intended device. That might be the on-board audio chip (w/asio4all), a decent audio card that supports ASIO like my Creative X-Fi feeding a headphone amp and for many others it's usually a usb dac feeding a headphone amp. I assume you are thinking mp3, who cares, but remember there are very good 'lossless' codecs like flac. What I'm getting at is that it's a chain that starts with a media player like Winamp and with a good source file feeding good components, a much higher level of 'audiophile' grade playback can be achieved on a pc. ASIO is part of that chain. I'd agree that if we're talking about 128k mp3 source going through typical on-board audio to a $3 set of speakers, then there is no real advantage. PS - In Vista, I have an X-Fi Platinum and use the Creative ASIO driver. Going any other route gets all sorts of glitches in playback (for me) I'd also be interested in knowing why someone would want a player such as Winamp to use ASIO drivers. What is to be gained using ASIO in an application that just plays audio files? Thanks in advance for the info.
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Post by Rob on May 20, 2009 3:14:42 GMT
Thanks for the reply Admezor.
After reading what you said, I looked up further information about ASIO on Wikipedia and did indeed find that the actions that ASIO cause do deliver a better quality sound, not just a less delayed one.
Thanks again.
.....rob
Oh, for anyone else who stumbles upon this page, here's the info gleaned from Wikipedia-
"ASIO bypasses the normal audio path from the user application through layers of intermediary Windows operating system software, so that the application connects directly to the soundcard hardware. Each layer that is bypassed means a reduction in latency, the delay between an application sending sound to the sound being reproduced by the soundcard. In this way ASIO offers a relatively simple way of accessing multiple audio inputs and outputs independently. Its main strength lies in its method of bypassing the inherently high latency of Windows audio mixing kernels (KMixer), allowing direct, high speed communication with audio hardware. Unlike KMixer, an unmixed ASIO output is "bit identical", that is, the bits sent to the sound card are identical to those of the original WAV file, thus having higher audio fidelity."
........rob
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Post by talon1973 on May 23, 2009 17:28:16 GMT
sorry to be abit thick ...just came accross this place from another forum .
i'm not that technically mined in regards my soundcard / programs but anything that makes me hear a betetr tune is good imo.
i have a xf-fi exteme music card and use both itunes and windows media player. i'd like to hear these new improvements with my sennhieser 600 headphones.
can someone please tell me exactly how i go about getting this asio to work .. full installation instructions please . i use xp
thanks in advance
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Post by cgt465 on Jul 26, 2009 19:21:59 GMT
I have experienced the same problem, although my issue seems to run a little deeper. When I open control panel, no ASIO icon is there, and if I open up Cakewalk, I do not see ASIO as an option, I only see my Realtek HD audio drivers as a choice. I realize I don't know much about audio drivers and how they interact, but please be patient and I will do my best to comprehend what you've suggested. I do see my Realtek icon in the taskbar, by any chance is that blocking the ASIO driver from running or starting? Thanks.
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Post by Dogrox on Jul 27, 2009 13:34:29 GMT
Hello, Hmm I have an exe file that has an icon to it on my screen and i have v2.9. And that got me wondering why i DID and my buddy who has the same PC I have DELL w/ Vista, DID NOT. I couldnt figure out why his didnt.
But then i just realized WHY i have the icon and his didnt after reading Michael Tippach response. That the exe file is NOT needed. Understandable.
So How did i get the icon? was because i originally had 2.8 installed and that was NOT working with the programs i use i would get SKIPPING all the time on one of my sound devices, And then on the other sound device wouldnt even acknowlege the Asio4all.
SO I then installed 2.9. I guess i installed it over top of the 2.8 wihtout uninstalling it first. I imagine thats how i was able to have the icon for the exe. WHen i click on the desktop icon it DOES indeed open up the 2.9 control panel and over all IT DOES work on my both sound devices.
Now i am still haveing problems on my freinds computer using the same music programs and hardware dell computer sound card, and ERIDOL UA-3 which is what i have as well. He is still getting skipping that i cant seem to work around yet.. BUT i know it works on mine so it just a matter of settings or something on his.
Thank you for a killer app DOODE!
Dog
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Post by LM on Sept 12, 2009 23:06:13 GMT
I have the same WinAmp problem...as for why I was interested in this program/driver...to help combat the problems found in trying to use Winamp to DJ in an enviroment such as Second Life. It is actually referred to in an article put out by SHX as a way to combat latency issues in Second Life.
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Post by renerator on Nov 26, 2009 2:38:24 GMT
Got it folks! I had the same problem as the first 7 or so on this thread did. Blue Ice was on the right track, but he (or her) left out the part of the ASIO file being a compressed file. I unzipped the file and placed the out_asio(dll)_67 file in the Media Monkey Plug-ins directory. As soon as I restarted MM, there it was. Eureka! I was going crazy with it myself. You can get the .dll file right out of the MM app. When you go to Options--Player--output plug-ins, a window opens and you'll see available pluggins. Since you don't see the one we've been seaching for, you'll see at bottom "download more in/out plugins. It takes you to plug in page where you open the input/output tab and the sixth one down is the "ASIO output plug-in .67. Good luck.
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Post by realitybytez on Dec 4, 2009 15:46:08 GMT
i just wanted to say thank you to rob for explaining this to us. i am now using asio4all in fruityloops, and whoa! what a huge difference in th audio quality. all the annoying clicks and distortion are gone. i had installed asio4all, but i did not even know that i wasn't actually using it.
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Post by mrpetemd on Dec 9, 2009 6:16:55 GMT
Downloaded, installed and...... like most of you, nothing is visible anywhere. Using Win XP/MediaMonkey 3.2.0.1294 (w/out_wave.dll). In MM went Tools>Options>Player>Output Plug-ins>.....nothing there! Uninstalled/reinstalled> rebooted........nothing! Tried the "ASIO output plug-in .67" route. Only got text files!! No .dll!! Not to mention I can't read the language. Any other ideas how to get this working?
Thanks
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Post by helpppp on Jan 5, 2010 5:00:35 GMT
I am running Realtek HD audio and when I install ASIO there is no option to use it as my primary audio software. Can anyone give me some tips on how to make this work?
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Post by exyll on Jan 7, 2010 11:11:40 GMT
It only works with applications that support ASIO. Select ASIO in the application and then select the ASIO4ALL driver in the ASIO configuration of that appplication. Then you will get a ASIO4ALL icon in the lower right trayicon which you can click to configure its settings. Usually the application also has a configure button that you can click that will result in the same dialog.
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Post by brutox on Jan 20, 2010 18:23:23 GMT
so basically how do i get the control panel option?
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Post by Erick on Jan 21, 2010 17:35:27 GMT
I'm having the same problem with Windows 7 64 bits.
With XP, I used to plug my instrument straight in the mic jack and I could play. No software needed. I can still play with Windows 7 but there's latency (playing live!) and it's driving me nuts.
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Post by Michael Tippach on Jan 22, 2010 18:06:01 GMT
In that case, you haven't been using ASIO4ALL in either situation.
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