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Post by Guspaz on May 25, 2007 3:25:40 GMT
Hi Guspaz, Reinstall the old Sigmatel XP drivers on your Vista32 and use ASIO4ALL 2.7 with the hardware buffers OFF. You should be able to set the ASIO buffer size to 64 and a latency of about 12ms. Go to Dell support and pretend you have XP to get the Sigmatel drivers. The Sigmatel Hardware buffers are odd. Turning them on with this setup has a very poor latency. Strangely, when you set the ASIO buffers above 1024, you get a vast improvement. AS you increase the buffers the latency gets up to over 400ms (with occasional readings of about 60ms). When you get up to an ASIO buffer of 1152 the latency drops to about 72ms. I am hoping this info helps Michael. Latency is actually fairly unimportant to me. When I'm messing around, sure, reasonably low latency is nice, but when I'm using ASIO4ALL for static playback, I actually want huge giant buffers (as much as is possible) for smoothing out CPU spikes in parts of a piece that are difficult to render in realtime. It's actually the overload condition that is the problem, not the latencies (for me). I don't really like the solution of using the XP driver, though. It sacrifices a lot of other stuff using it in Vista, and it's a dead-end road with poor future update prospects. I would much rather just wait for a new version of ASIO4ALL that fixes the bug (or a new version of the Vista drivers if they're at fault).
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Post by Simon on May 27, 2007 2:27:55 GMT
Guspaz,
Overload and latency are usually a trade off when determining buffer size, they are different aspects of the same thing. At the moment the Sigmatel Vista Drivers and the Asio4all 2.8 Beta will not provide a working system at all... and you say you don't want to "sacrifice" vista functionality???
Also, you can install any driver you like in the "future". Why not have a computer that works in the meantime?
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Post by Simon on May 31, 2007 3:03:40 GMT
I found a newer version of the Sigmatel Vista drivers at DELL (May 21, 2007. v6.10.0.5407. pack R153910) so I thought I would give the WaveRT another go with ASIO4ALL 2.8 BETA 2.
Still the same. With a bit of fiddling and the ASIO buffer at maximum I get 5 to 10 second sections of smooth playback and the silent sections are quite short. It's a pity, because this setup is much less work for the CPU.
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Post by turbo on Jun 3, 2007 14:55:16 GMT
hi im having the same problem but ive got windows xp and a sigmatel hdac and it all works but i dont get any sound. im using FL7 . can anyone help me solve this??
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Post by plasmatic on Jun 10, 2007 20:53:28 GMT
I am having a similar problem to our friend above except that I can't get any microphone input in fl studio 7 with asio4all. I am also using windows xp. Does anyone know a solution? I asked that question on the fruity loops forums and they referred me here.
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Post by djmds on Jun 12, 2007 8:58:30 GMT
In my vaio Asio4All see the output of sigmatel as "beyond logic" so i cannot hear nothing... Suggest?
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Post by gypsyseagod on Jun 14, 2007 17:25:14 GMT
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Post by Ale on Jun 15, 2007 6:57:04 GMT
the really strange thing is that with my realtek high definition audio (ALC888) and vista, I've installed Guitar Rig, and it works PERFECTLY the first time I use it after installation, but if I close it and re-open, everything is fucked up, no asio working anymore....
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Post by Ale on Jun 19, 2007 6:46:53 GMT
the really strange thing is that with my realtek high definition audio (ALC888) and vista, I've installed Guitar Rig, and it works PERFECTLY the first time I use it after installation, but if I close it and re-open, everything is f**ked up, no asio working anymore.... I solved this problem using guitar rig not as standalone, but loaded on FL Studio 7. On FL I set asio4all and everything is fine now!
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Post by Turbo on Jul 10, 2007 17:33:49 GMT
it works!!!! ;D ;D ;D all u need 2 do is upgarde to vista and it should work.
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Post by Guspaz on Jul 27, 2007 10:44:17 GMT
Guspaz, Overload and latency are usually a trade off when determining buffer size, they are different aspects of the same thing. At the moment the Sigmatel Vista Drivers and the Asio4all 2.8 Beta will not provide a working system at all... and you say you don't want to "sacrifice" vista functionality??? Also, you can install any driver you like in the "future". Why not have a computer that works in the meantime? Funny thing, it's working now. Same drivers as in May, same version of ASIO4ALL. The fix? I checked the "Force WDM Driver to 16 bit" option. OK, so I lose 24-bit audio output, but that's not THAT big a deal. I'll take perfectly smooth output (albeit with tiny buffers) over 24-bit output.
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Post by Guspaz on Jul 27, 2007 10:47:37 GMT
Err, I should elaborate, the tiny buffers is because the "Use Hardware Buffers" option is checked and disabled, so I can't use software buffers, which previously let me select multiple kernel buffers for more... buffer.
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Post by Guspaz on Jul 27, 2007 10:52:31 GMT
Ugh, not being able to edit posts sucks.
I also need to set Cantabile to 44.1KHz output (not 48 KHz) to get it fixed (and the 44.1/48 mixing option doesn't matter).
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Post by lev on Jul 31, 2007 18:00:16 GMT
Hi folks
I have a dell XPS 410 with onboard sound device. I'm using ASIO4ALL 2.8 beta2. ASIO4ALL works fine for me. It sees it as an AC97 device. I am running Vista OS & the HD audio device driver that is supplied by Microsoft with Vista Ultimate.
I'm using ASIO4ALL with this ASIO output plugin for winamp (http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/156466) to achieve 5.1 upmix. I did have to increase the ASIO4ALL buffer size as I was getting overloads causing intermittent silence gaps. I set it to max @ 2048 Samples, and that seems to have avoided that issue.
My question is any idea why I would not be able to dsp/effect plugins? I get no output when these are enabled. I know it's probably a winamp issue, but thought someone might have a recommendation for me.
Thanks.
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Post by Simon on Aug 21, 2007 3:15:26 GMT
Hi Guspaz,
Good to hear your system is working, perhaps our systems are being automatically upgraded via the Vista updates? I will try again when I have time, but I don't use compressors (on the input) so I like the 24 bit overhead.
General advice for people having trouble. As mentioned earlier I have Vista but find the best latency when I use the XP sigmatel drivers and ASIO4all version 2.7 - which lets me turn the hardware buffers off.
Latency is important for me because I do studio recording of live instruments. If you use loops or MIDI then you might not care about latency and large buffers. The hardware buffers are much kinder to your computer's CPU. Experiment with various versions of ASIO4all, and if you have Vista try the XP versions of the sound card drivers.
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